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Entering the US on Visa

The US of A have clarified what exactly they need from you to get a Visum: It’s approximately everything except your passwords. The Register has a list: »

  • Travel history during the past fifteen years, including source of funding for travel.
  • Address history during the past fifteen years.
  • Employment history during the past fifteen years.
  • All passport numbers and country of issuance held by the applicant.
  • Names and dates of birth for all siblings.
  • Name and dates of birth for all children.
  • Names and dates of birth for all current and former spouses, or civil or domestic partners.
  • Social media platforms and identifiers, also known as handles, used during the past five years.
  • Phone numbers and email addresses used during the past five years.«

People are already reacting to that in completely expected ways.

From Chat, transcribed:

Z> I am listening to a number of US politics podcasts ATM. A number of “moderate” conservatives over there are actually lauding Trump. He might have many faults, but he actually did reduce illegal immigration.

For some reason they don’t understand what he does to the US as a destination for travel. He’s not reducing illegal immigration, he’s reducing travel overall. “Yes, he reduced illegal border crossings.” “And legal border crossings too, numbnut.”

I> False positives and their effects are a huge problem to teach, it appears. It’s not just Spam (“just turn off all mail and you will never receive a single piece of spam ever again”) and protection of minors.

“Set everything to 18+, children and Internet do not mix.” “But that won’t work.” “That means the problem is not marking porn as 18+, it’s marking everything else as safe. But then everybody but porn producers has work, cost and liability.” “But it does work with cinematic films!” “And how many free films have you been in in the last 50 years?” “…”

I> And of course the base rate fallacy post. Because there are a lot more legit tourists than there are legit terrorists.

 

The German phrase ist “Selbstmord aus Angst vor dem Tod” (“Suicide for Fear of Death”).

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6 Comments

  1. If they are going to add this to the VISA waiver program, then they need to be prepared to skim through like ~1000s of my email addresses as every organisation I have contact with gets their own incoming email address so it’s easy for me to track who leaks to SPAM organisaties and block them accordingly.

  2. I wouldn’t be able to fully comply with the last three even if I wanted.

    I must have burned dozens of throwaway Mail addresses just registered for one single purpose, I moved, changed providers, changed the way my computer connects to the net (with/without own SIM) I owned and used up foreign prepaid SIMs purchased on vacation .
    I have been to ‘underdeveloped’ countries where ‘swapping’ used SIMs with other people is quite common.

    And don’t get me started about ‘birthplaces’ of former partners, I can’t even remember the names of some of them (and that’s surely mutual) because it have been some superficial months in the 1990s..

    Man, I guess I will never visit the states.

  3. Wolfgang

    If you live in a border region it is sometimes very difficult to remember all the times you’ve been abroad. (Does “went to France/Switzerland/The Netherlands to buy some groceries” count as travel?)

  4. Cornelius Keck

    Visa applications are more thoroughly vetted, compared to ESTA applications from countries covered by the Visa waiver program (https://esta.cbp.dhs.gov/esta/). Means paperwork for most, if not all Europeans is limited.

    Regardless of how one gets here, one needs to be very, *VERY* careful about the contents of all and any electronic devices brought in… Consider traveling clean (empty phone, empty laptop, empty camera).

  5. Let me share my 1st hand experience renewing my 10 years US visa.
    my visa was about to expire so I’ve applied online via something called drop-box application.
    You fill in a (rather lengthy) form: http://www.ustraveldocs.com/bg/bg-niv-ds160info.asp, pay the fee and then send in your passport and a recent photo via courier.
    The embassy then decides on your visa, eventually stamps it in your passport and returns the passport to you via courier again. Simple and efficient.
    And no there were no questions about my social media accounts. But you can check for yourself in the link above.
    Yes, the rest is there (employment history etc), but that’s not a new thing. Getting my previous visa 10 years ago required that I fill in the same form (more or less).
    I find nothing strange in it: consider inviting a stranger to your home. It’s natural to want to know a bit more about him. And it is up to you to decide how much do you want to know. The visitors always have a choice to go or not.
    Note also that my home country’s government has the same info (and probably more) about me.

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